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Monday, 17 October 2011

Do You Think He's Gay? And other inappropriate questions.

This is what Henry Hotdog feels I should wear when I take him to school.

He likes the feathers.

At least two mornings a week, while I stand draped in a towel flicking through clothes in my wardrobe, as if he's never suggested it before, he'll say "Why don't you wear the feathers Mum? I think everyone would REALLY like it."

Henry feels the feathers should be my "signature" piece on the daily school run. Can't you just see me on the side of the basketball court? Or maybe sitting in the bleachers at swimming lessons. I could wear it while I loaded the groceries in to the back of the car after I've swished around the supermarket on a Tuesday morning.

From the moment Henry could walk, he found his way over to the dress up box and started putting things together. All four of the travelers have been big fans of the dress up box. Everyone, at some stage has donned a tutu. They've been Wiggles, cats, princesses, builders, and Masterchefs. Henry's favourite for a long time was the rainbow fairy dress. I love that dress. I bought it for the first little traveler in Perth at the fairy shop in Freemantle. Watching the fourth little traveler wear it in the snow in Canada six years later, always made me a little melancholy. That dress had been a constant, packed in every suitcase, and when everything else seemed to be changing, the dress was still there.

For roughly two years Henry wore the dress constantly, which seemed to bring two types of reactions from friends and family. People either scooped him up and told him he looked fantastic or tried desperately to look like they were okay with it while they were obviously struggling.  I had all sorts of hideous comments from "Do you think he's gay?" to "Geez, I hope he grows out of it".

Do you think he's gay? Is not a cool question for anyone. Not a 5 year old, a 15 year old or a 50 year old, because no matter what, it's really irrelevant. In a world where we struggle with the sexualization of children. Why would be discussing a child's sexuality?

Do you think he's gay? Pollutes a conversation with undertones and stereotypes. Bad stereotypes, old stereotypes.

Do you think he's gay? Makes me want to ask you if you think your child will be in to nipple rings, ribbed vibrators and fetishes. Do you? Have you thought about your toddler having sex? Or who'll they'll have sex with? No? Me neither.

Henry rarely wears a dress anymore. The rainbow fairy dress now lives at the beach house, I watched Henry help one of his cousins put it on when were home last time and my heart melted a little bit. What made me sadder though was he didn't grow out of it. He was pushed. Not by his own family, but by the stereotypes of others.

"Why's your brother wearing a dress?" our little visitor asked. The third traveler shrugged it off "that's what he always wears". I saw Henry's face change - in that instant I watched him register what was happening. His cheeks blushed, his eyes dropped to the ground. I did my usual speech about wearing whatever he wanted, that there were no rules, but I knew the damage was done.

When I filled out his introduction form for kindergarten this year he whispered to me at the table "tell them I like robots and cars - I don't want them to know what I really like". The words stung. I felt like I'd failed. How could he feel this way? When did this happen? I'd spent so many hours preaching about there being no such thing as girls stuff and boys stuff and why there were no girl's colours and boy's colours. "Mummy, everyone else calls it girl's stuff, they say 'Why are you playing with the girl's stuff' - that's what they say".

He is 5.

No. You don't grow out of it. You just catch on. You hear the comments and assumptions and you conform because it's easier.

Yesterday the lovely Mrs Woog, wrote yet another beautiful post about her little Jack. A comment was made and there was almost a public lynching. I actually felt sorry for the woman who made it, I don't think she meant it to be cruel or hurtful but unfortunately she made an assumption.

I haven't written about this before, mainly because others have and they've done it so beautifully that I didn't want to appear to jumping on the bandwagon. This story is for Henry and for anyone you know that reminds you of Henry. Just let them be. Scoop them up, tell them they look fabulous, give them permission to be whoever they want.

Just don't assume to know who they're going to become.




59 comments:

  1. Oh god, this post made me cry. It is awful that these things matter so much to some. Even worse that they pass on these messed up beliefs to their children. 

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  2. This is such a beautiful, heartfelt post hon. I wish Henry could wear whatever the hell he wants to wear with no fear or labels.

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  3. Going through this with my son, 4.5 years. He's just obsessed with pink and anything girly. The teacher pulled me aside this morning and told me all about it - like I wouldn't know?!? I'm also sick of the "do you think he's gay?" question, which usually comes out as a statement in Benji's case, expressing the affirmative. The only reason I wouldn't want my son to be gay is because more than half my gay friends are psychologically damaged from holding in their personalities all their lives (amongst other things). I just want my child to be happy. And IF he is gay, then I want to make sure that he knows that I'm OK with it. Before everything gets gnarly.

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  4. This post really hits a chord with me. We have three boys - at different times in their young lives, each of them have wanted to wear something "female", try something "female" or even be called the name of a female character in an animation. At no time did I think about their sexuality - they were little boys. They were playing.  (Plus when they do share their sexual preferences with me, I will truly be happy as long as they are happy.) But I do remember a very good friend once asking me about one of our boys "Do you think he is gay?". I can't even remember the context now as it was so many years ago. But I do remember being annoyed. Not enough to say anything and not enough to affect our friendship, but still deeply annoyed. And it was for similar reasons - I was not and still don't give much thought to my kids' future or present sexual preferences. And it's certainly not something that is or was anyone else's business until and if they are striking up a relationship with our boys. And somehow the questions implies that something is somehow wrong or not normal with a child. This is so well written Kirsty - and so "spot on".

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  5. This brought tears to my eyes. I feel sad for Henry that he feels the need to be someone else and only at 5 years old. Makes me sad but from reading this you are a wonderful supportive mum x

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  6. Some of my most delightful memories are of my now 11yo son dressing up in a ballet tutu and a hat with bells at the age of 18months and on and dancing to the tune of the bells as he jumped around. Now he is more concerned with being perceived as cool and 'in' and I wish nothing more than to give him back the innocence of his youth when his happiness was so easily achievable and not judged by others.

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  7. Such a shame that we are all expected to squash into the 'right' mold.  All you nurturing won't be for nothing, at the end of the day his upbringing and values will be what shapes him, not the expectations of others.

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  8. 'A comment was made and there was almost a public lynching.'

    While I did not agree with the comment made by Lindy in Brisbane on Mrs Woogs post, I think the comments made back at her did feel like a lynching of sorts. Making assumptions about someone merely based on ONE comment they've made, isn't constructive or helpful and at times can make you appear as 'wrong' as the person who made the comment in the first place.

    Society is seemingly obsessed with putting labels on everyone, why do we have to 'be' something? Why can't we just be ourselves, whoever that may be?

    Nobody would question me if I wanted to walk around wearing a tie, so why should anyone question whether a 5 year old boy wants to wear a dress? Their only concern should be - is that 5 year old happy? Yes? Fabulous, keep wearing the dress if it makes you smile :-)

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  9. I have no idea why that posted as Openminded because it should have posted as me StinkbOmb

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  10. My son does ballet and tap. I'm conscious of the fact he is the only boy and do my best to nip insecurities in the bud and support passion. He is four, I know these next few years are going to have a big influence in his direction. I just want him to be happy doing what makes him happy

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  11. A beautiful post! I teared up when I read that he didn't want kinder to know what he really likes. How sad that our little ones feel they can't be who they are at heart for fear of what others will say.

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  12. "In a world where we struggle with the sexualization of children. Why would be discussing a child's sexuality?" What an excellent comment. You really couldn't have put it more succinctly than that.
    "When I filled out his introduction form for kindergarten this year he whispered to me at the table "tell them I like robots and cars - I don't want them to know what I really like". The words stung."

    That made me feel sad for Henry. And for you.

    I hope this is the worst of it. I hope from here on in Henry feels good about himself and never has to conform for anyone.

    Love & stuff
    Mrs M

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  13. I hope Henry finds his way to being whoever he wants to be, and not who others want him to be. You keep being the Mum you are ( so not a failure) and I'm sure he will. xx

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  14. Well said! Let children be children without judgement.
    Henry's right, the feathers on your dress are really gorgeous. School runs would certainly be fun if you wore your dress. Love it! xx

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  15. Such a beautiful and well-written post. My heart bursts when I watch my son and daughter celebrate the feathery and frilly things in life. It saddens me though when people judge or 'label' their actions and choices. Perhaps us 'grown-ups' should shut up, and watch and learn from their pure minds.

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  16. Oh Kirsty. Henry is so blessed to have you as his mum. That's all I have to say! J x

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  17. What a beautiful post about your amazing son. People are individuals, not labels. Viva la difference!

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  18. My 13  yo son is sitting beside me while I'm reading this, and Mrs Woog's post. So it opened up a discussion for us, and planted some seeds. Both yours and Mrs Woog's post made me sad - sad that we still have such a long way to go in educating people - that different is just that - different - not right or wrong - just different... be it sexuality, race, gender, mental health, disabilities, the list goes on... Its sad - people with closed minds miss out on so much beauty.

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  19. I got asked how I would feel if my son was gay. Very proud, whether gay, straight, bisexual or bipartisan or bicycle, was my response. Then I got curious and asked why the question.

    The answer floored me. Because he's sweet, helpful, caring, sharing, emotionally intelligent...

    Apparently, it's not "masculine" to have emotions?!

    I'm so sorry people like this exist. Let's not give them oxygen.

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  20. I got asked how I would feel if my son was gay. Very proud, whether gay, straight, bisexual or bipartisan or bicycle, was my response. Then I got curious and asked why the question.

    The answer floored me. Because he's sweet, helpful, caring, sharing, emotionally intelligent...

    Apparently, it's not "masculine" to have emotions?!

    I'm so sorry people like this exist. Let's not give them oxygen.

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  21. I got asked how I would feel if my son was gay. Very proud, whether gay, straight, bisexual or bipartisan or bicycle, was my response. Then I got curious and asked why the question.

    The answer floored me. Because he's sweet, helpful, caring, sharing, emotionally intelligent...

    Apparently, it's not "masculine" to have emotions?!

    I'm so sorry people like this exist. Let's not give them oxygen.

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  22. You got it lady, this was a beautiful post, thank you x

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  23. Gorgeous post, just lovely. My 12yo son was a lot like Henry- we used to get asked the same question. He is still very arty (and I think it was the artist's eye that had- and has- him so interested in colour and texture and the way things go together) but also is starting to look at pictures of girls in his surf mags and asked me if I thought X, a girl he likes, might be "sexually attracted" to him "one day".

    So he's not gay. But it honestly wouldn't have mattered... and if you want the truth, I really miss that 5yo who was so entranced with fabric and the way light sparkled off sequins. Enjoy yours while you have him. xxx

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  24. Very well written. I have 5 year old twins boys and one of them loves pink. He loves 2 have his nails painted, we have many mindless people make comments about it. It is only nail polish and can be removed.

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  25. Oh what a beautiful post - I hear you and I feel like I'm on a similar path.
    My little boy wears the rainbow fairy dress (that we bought in Perth) a lot, he likes clips in his hair, he loves to look pretty, he's chosen a pink cake for his birthday and the pink blanky for bedtime.
    We embrace it and so far the reactions have been largely positive (albeit with a relieved-that-its-not-my-son laugh from some).
    I hope he doesn't have to learn like Henry...but I fear he will.

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  26. I wanted to start by saying I don't think she meant it to be so cruel either. I understand it was upsetting for Mrs W, but I don't want to say more as this woman herself may be feeling totally overwhelmed with the comments about her on twitter and blogs, and she may be wondering how one silly comment she made got so far. Her name was there in full, she wasn't hiding trying to be a troll. I worry about the pack mentality of blog comments, they can rip a woman to shreds for flicking out a thoughtless comment. My husband says having this attitude is why I get bullied so much as an adult! And just writing this makes me stress that many will no doubt disagree with me.

    But anyway...

    On the other issue, with two girls totally into all things pink we have nothing else for little boys to play with. Always, when they are here playing on their own they will end up either dressed as a fairy, dancing to fairies, or playing polly pocket. I think the Henry's and Jack's are the braver boys of their age, for deciding what they want to play with and just doing it. Courage will take them a long way in life.

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  27. Thank you for sharing this. Beautifully said.

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  28. I had same feeling re the commenter on woog's post - perhaps a poor attempt at humour, but probably not meant to be hurtful. I love the way you have raised Henry and I know that your response is going to be more important to him in the long run than the crowd. 
    My oldest son has long golden curls and is almost always presumed to be a girl when ppl first meet him to the point where he feels uncomfortable using the public bathroom because of the looks he gets. The hair is his choice and always has been. 
    My 3rd child went through a phase of being incredibly worried that his brother did not have a "boy" cut (the same 3rd child who attended his 3rd bday lunch in his sister's dress). We keep reinforcing the same messages that you do - there is no girls stuff or boys stuff, and this goes for hair too! 
    Beautifully written and perceptive. 

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  29. Ignoring sexuality does not help. Society is full of norms and boundaries that relate to sexuality eg public displays, marriage & number of partners, age appropriateness, straight/bi/gay etc. I'm training my kids in values eg don't hit people, be respectful, help others, have a global view. I accept these are my values but they are what I want to pass on. With two boys I also want to pass on sexual values - treat women with respect, don't just use people for sexual gratification etc. Leaving children to discover their own sexuality is un-civialised and irresponsible. Having worked with many damaged & confused people  I know that lots of what people label 'gay' and 'bi-sexual' is simply brokenness. You can profile many young 'gay' men by their home circumstances - just ask the old guys who target these boys, they know and can spot the profile. It annoys me that young gay guys are almost applauded for having multiple partners, casual sex etc yet if straight guys act that way they are considered mysogisnist scum. Kids need boundaries, values and discipline - how can they test boundaries and decide on their own values if they don't have any? Let them play but provide appropriate social, cultural and sexual boundaries. 

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  30. Love, love, love how you have worded this post. Let kids be kids. There's so much joy in letting them be who they want to be without the dumb contraints "well-meaning" adults put on them.

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  31. You are beautiful in your feathers, and beautiful in your words and thoughts about this. xx

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  32. This has just set me wondering whether tomboys would get a similar reaction? Anyone have experience?

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  33. Wonderful perspective.  You sound like an amazing mother.  My eyes teared a little reading this, especially surrounding the comment about "tell them I like robot and cars"....I'm glad Henry is being raised in your family though!!!!

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  34. Beautifully written Kirsty and I agree, let kids be kids. My heart hurt when I read what Henry wanted them to think about him. Katelyn spent her first several years playing with toy cars and trucks and completely ignoring the "girl" toys. She too received comments. I know they weren't meant to be judgemental but unfortunately the message was received.

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  35. dadsprimalscream18 October 2011 at 02:56

    Wonderful post and you are a fantastic Mom!  I played with My Mom's curlers and makeup as a young boy and my Mom reacted much like you.  It was others who gave me the sense that there was something wrong with it and I learned to hide it and abandon that side of me.  I adjusted my life and interests to the boundaries society expected... but I still turned out gay.

    While I agree with you that discussing the sexuality of a 5 year old is ridiculous,  there is a whole lot more to being gay than sex. I'm not more gay at 46 now than I was at 5.  It's a state of being. Perhaps empowering him to know that if he is or isn't gay he obviously has a wonderful life ahead of him.  You get it obviously. Hopefully that message from you rings louder than the "concern" and inappropriate questions from others.

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  36. I really empathised with the part about Henry asking you to say he liked robots and cars. Up until recently my oldest boy had long curly blond hair. I was planning a career for him either as a rocker or a surfer. Then we went to England for a two week holiday (we usually live in Turkey, where pretty much no one commented on his hair, other than a doctor who said he would "become confused and think he was a girl") Anyway, close to the end of that holiday, where everyone but everyone assumed he was a girl, I had to have a chat with him. I explained his hair was awesome, I loved it, people were a bit dumb not to be able to see beyond his hair to his general boyishness, but that if it really bothered him he could have a hair cut. At first he thought he didn't care about what other people thought, but another day or two of the "what a pretty girl you are/ why don't you wear a dress" treatment, made him change his mind. I mourn those curls, and giving in to the endless comments, and the desire to fit in. I hope when he is older and it is cool to be different again he grows them back.

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  37. Awww, what a brilliantly written post. I want to give you a virtual hug and say well done on being such a great Mum. It's so sad that many people stereotype what boys and girls *should* be playing with and dressing like.

    It's all natural, part of their world, exploring, imaginative, fun, innocent, but why oh why do people have to critique.

    My daughter, at age 2 to 5 hated all things pink, fairies, princesses, dolls etc. She LOVED trains, Thomas the Tank Engine, lego.

    She's now 8 and likes a balance of things - from the stereotypical male and female toy areas. She has a balanced group of male and female friends (something not all her female peers have). She finds it easy to talk and play with boys, just as she does girls (but some girls tell her she shouldn't have more than one *boyfriend*!).

    It's so sad that our children, at such a young age, become aware of the stereotypical, peer pressured world in which we live, but it's great that you have supported your son in his early years with free, creative, unprejudiced play. Even though he now feels he has to hide a part of himself, he will still have his uniqueness and that's wonderful and something to celebrate. He'll also know he has a wonderful mother who he can trust and be himself with.

    xx

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  38. Lovely post. I've never been in that particular situation because my boy has not once ever shown interest in anything out of the ordinary. (He gives us other work instead!) But if he had've- not an issue.

    I also read Mrs Woog's post and the comment, and like Claire and mamabook I don't think that there was any harm intended. My first impression was that it was outdated humour, someone who's not up with the times and how it may have been insensitive. That's how people used to talk when faced with an out-of-the-box picture. Doesn't automatically mean it's malicious. No doubt the woman was shocked to see the response she attracted and has also been left with something to think about.

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  39. I had tears reading this because I am in the same boat with my girl wanting 'boy stuff' & to hang out with boys. As much as I comfort her that that is OK & is no biggie, I cannot protect her from comments of some of her schoolmates. Children are very sensitive & they put two & two together & it is heartbreaking when you see them start to feel ashamed of themselves.  

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  40. Yes, I agree Henry needs more man time (with his Uncle Brett) because we miss him in Australia. Big kisses to hotdog xx

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  41. Your comment was fantastic. I loved the blah blah blah...but I still turned out to be gay. You're right, he does have a wonderful life ahead of him, he has the personality of 10 little boys, the cutest dimples and he's a bloody good laugh. Our family is large and loving and I think in your words yes "we get it". I have no idea what the future holds in store for Henry, he tells me he's going to grow up, get married, have  kids and be either a fashion designer or an architect. He'll be whoever he wants to be and I'm enjoying watching him get there. 

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  42. So well said. xx

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  43. I'm so glad you posted this comment. I've had a lot of people ask the question (via the blog and twitter) if it is the same for little girls or are we more forgiving. It's so sad to hear that it's no better either way.  

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  44. Thank you, that was such a nice thing to say. xx

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  45. Hi Pam, Not sure if you've seen Sarah's comment. Sadly, it appears it's the same for girls. 

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  46. Oh - I'm so familiar with the "relieved that its not my son laugh". Your little guy sounds absolutely delicious. Enjoy every minute of it. Kxx

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  47. Tork - I had no idea how to respond to your comment.

    I decided I'd just sit on it for 24 hours to stop myself from writing something back that I might regret.

    It appears you didn't just upset me though

    http://www.kellyexeter.com.au/getting-my-rant-on/

    Your comment about "man time" was incredibly offensive, particularly to the men in my family who adore Henry and embrace him in whatever package he presents himself.

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  48. excellent post.  found you from WoogsWorld.  most people i think mean well, but why say anything?  if it makes you uncomfortable just say nothing. 

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  49. A signature feather piece really is the way to go.

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  50. fantastic post - if only we could finally get rid of gender stereotypes and let kids be kids instead of thinking in terms of boys and girls and expectations.
    Mrs Woog brought me to your post and i am glad to have found your blog!

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  51. I'm a bit late but just wanted to let you know that this is a beautiful post Kirsty.

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  52. What a beautiful story. How about everyone let kids be kids :)

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  53. Love this post (can't believe I missed it earlier this week). Henry is so lucky growing up in your family. I just wish wider society was as accepting of kids being themselves. No kid should ever be made to feel bad about the clothes they wear, the hairstyle they choose or the toys they want to play with. I love meeting kids who are individuals, rather than conforming to the stereotypes. My four-year-old daughter has short hair, has never worn dresses and loves playing with earthworms. I've always been pleased that she's done her own thing. No one has ever had a go at her for not being "girly". I hope no one ever does.

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  54. Oh that's such a sad story, poor little man. Sadly very true though.

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  55. this post made me want to scoop Henry up and give him a big hug. It breaks my heart that a 5 year old feels the need to pretend he's someone else. 

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  56. that's soooo touching...broughtbtears to my eyes..i love ur blog...so far i'm LOVING every post i read

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